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seanyuki



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 1:52 am  Post subject:  New tank set up Reply with quoteBottom of PageBack to top

Hi all,

This is my first post in this forum...and please forgive me if I ask silly questions.This will be my first Red Cheery Shrimp tank.
I am planning to use a brand new 20 gallons tank with Eco soil and a sponge filter.I am planning to get 80-100 Red Cherry Shrimps from LFS.
DO I use a cycled sponge filter from my existing fish tank or just use a brand new sponge filter. Are shrimps more delicate in catching diseases than fish.
Some fish hobbyist mentioned this to me.Will this work for me in the new set up for the shrimp tank.

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You don't really need benefitial bacteria in the start.....really

You can have the tank running and put in the fish and try to feed slowly for the first 2 weeks ...gradually reaching to normal feeding rate or the rate you prefer. By then, the biological filtration will be establishes and working effectively bi itself.

If you were to use a filter media or any equipment from another tank or another culture, you might just accidently innoculate disease from the other fishes to your further fish and that disease may not be harmful to the existing because the fishes there already got the immune but introducing it to the new fish might just make the fish sick if not mortality.

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Please enlighten me.


Cheers

Francis
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:09 am  Post subject:   Reply with quoteBottom of PageBack to top

Hi and my suggestion it to always use a well cycled tank to introduce your shrimp to. They are very sensitive to "dirty" water. Using "used" water from another tank as well as a used sponge filter will greatly increase cycle time, but still be sure no Ammonia or Nitrites are present or you may find dead shrimp.

YES they need "Beneficial Bacteria" healthy and doing it's job ridding your water of these harmful elements.

Cheers, Bill
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:23 am  Post subject:   Reply with quoteBottom of PageBack to top

Hi Francis,

nice to have you here! And remember - there are no stupid questions, only stupid anwers Wink

Have you seen our primer: http://www.crustaforum.com/topic,228,-shrimpkeeping-101.html ?

If you can use a cycled sponge filter or filter muck from a cycled tank you don't absolutely need those liquid bacteria. Firstly, if they haven't been stored right they're probably dead anyway, and secondly, 1,000,000,000 bacteria might sound a lot, but in the range of bacteria this is really a very small bunch...

Generally, shrimp are not susceptible to the same illnesses than fish, so you can practically rule out any infection risk when taking stuff from a fish tank.

Regarding the general sensitivity of shrimp: http://www.crustaforum.com/topic,65,-diseases-or-other-problems%3F.html

Nitrite blocks the oxygen receptors on the hemoglobin. As shrimp don't have any hemoglobin in their blood they're a lot less susceptible to nitrite than fish. When I threw out the interior filter in my small tank the nitrite reached levels of over 1 mg/l with no ill effect to the shrimp. The snails wandered to the surface (but they do have hemoglobin after all).

What really affects shrimp are high nitrate levels of over 20, ammonia and phosphate, you should keep an eye on those.

Cheers
Ulli
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:16 pm  Post subject:   Reply with quoteBottom of PageBack to top

Hi Bill/Ulli

Many thanks for your quick replies.I will go over all the post in this forum so I will know what to do next Thanks again for your help.


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Francis
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:22 am  Post subject:   Reply with quoteBottom of PageBack to top

Francis

Nice to see you here

John
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