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    My internet searches lead me to amazing ultra-close ups of rotifers, copepods and such, including several stunning threads right here at crustaforum.
    But, at home, when I'm looking into the tank/bowl/pond with my magnifying glass and spectacles perched on my nose, I see blurry little dots, moving amid the daphnia and copepods.
    Here are two photos of little dots. This culture is two years old. It began with some green water and thread algae collected at a local pond & landscape store. I harvest the creatures with a turkey baster, for feeding to my fish. (My ghost shrimp could catch them, and made a point of doing so.) I replace an equal amount of tank water back into the culture each time. They're in an east window.
    The little white dots cling to the algae/bacterial growth covering surfaces. (1st photo) They move in horizontal patterns. At night, even under a bright light, little white dots are seen swimming in little clouds (2nd photo, with daphnia). They're less than half to a quarter the the size of daphnia, and come in different shapes.
    The black dots (3rd photo) also move along surfaces of any sort, in a somewhat agitated manor, as if late for something important. They are very numerous at time, though, to be fair, they may appear so prolific simply because they're easy to see.
    I'm not looking for a specific species id (not with these pics:-). I'd just like to know, generaly... infusoria, rotifers, space aliens? Thanks for reading.
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    Hi

    Its really not to identify by these photos, but I think we can exclude aliens. Rotifers are most time sessile. My guess is paramecia or lady slippers, for they are a freshwater protozoon, which can be seen without magnifying glass. They are harmless, but an indicator for with nutrients highly charged water. They feed on bacteria and micro-algae.

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    Thank you, Wolfgang. I am fascinated by your micro-photography posts. Once you know what a thing is, or isn't, the close-up photos add to experience.
    I found these creatures rather difficult to photograph, partly because of the curved containers.

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    Very interesting, thats for sure, and NO I have no idea what they would be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kim View Post
    Very interesting, thats for sure, and NO I have no idea what they would be.
    They're interesting enough to warrant their own tank... and the little fish go nuts for them.
    I really enjoy watching the 2 to 3cm tilapia fry- cichlids- hunt them.
    Let me know if you'd like a starter culture.

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    I also think at least the white ones might be Paramecium, there are large P. sp. you can see with the naked eye. Young fish just love them, mine also go crazy whenever I put some into their tank .

    The black ones - no idea... Do you happen to have a friend with a microscope?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulli Bauer View Post
    I also think at least the white ones might be Paramecium, there are large P. sp. you can see with the naked eye. Young fish just love them, mine also go crazy whenever I put some into their tank .

    The black ones - no idea... Do you happen to have a friend with a microscope?

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    The little white things cause a frenzy in the fry tanks, for sure!
    As for the microscope, maybe... I have this friend, he used to be a lab researcher. He might have hung on to a few toys.
    If I do find a microscope, Ulli, what should I be looking for?
    When I first noticed the little black things, I thought they were a little water beetle of some sort. They move quickly - scurrying like little Pacman creatures.
    They always show up in sponge filter squeezings, so they multiply in tanks.
    I see them on any surface that grows algae, and on the bottom in the mulm. They are a little bit smaller than the 'winter eggs' of daphnia. Small fish enjoy them.
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    For these critters, a low magnification is ample, I use a 10 to 15x ocular lens (extendable) and a 10x objective.
    A USB eyepiece would be great, then you can look at the preparate on your computer screen, and you can make screenshots to show us .

    Do these USOs (the black ones) swim like helicopters? Not jerkily like copepods? Then they might be a tiny ostracod species - just guessing...

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    They're not jerky, if that's what you mean. The more I think about, the less I remember, so I'll have to sit aore:-)

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